Am I wrong to suspect we are on the verge of absolute catastrophe?

I just have a sixth sense about where things are heading and I gotta tell you, I am not sleeping soundly these days

The Final destruction of the Average man

Me too - though I know very well where it is all going.... and I suspect you do too..... vicmac64

Me too -- I feel somethin' in my bones -- it is not at all good..........

Guys, guys guys...

Relax. I really don't think things will be that bad. We'll see a slow portracted correction of the housing bubble, and maybe a mild recession on the back of it....but not end of the world stuff.

Even if things do get that bad, i'll take a couple of grand out of my deposit fund and sit on a Thai beach until things settle down. Easy Peasy.

Yes few know where we're heading and what point in history we are now at..and it's not going to be nice at all for those left..

eric - knew you were in the same camp all along

I'll put the kettle on.

Nicolaj - welcome - I agree with your feelings also

yeah good idea for you - put the kettle on and sleep like you have been for soooo looooooooonnnnnggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggg

end of the world stuff ???Not yet!!!

Thats a good way away yet - lot of stuff that you don't want to know about to come before that!

What a classic British response!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank god British people have such a great SOH

Go on then vicmac64:

Give me a timetable to destruction (detailing all the major events).

Glad you got it.

One lump or two?

Nicolaj - the love of money has been the root of all evil as I can see it. Also I was told yesterday that Rev 18 is the Financial or monetary chapter of Revelations by a minister.

Note how the merchants of the world are disturbed.

mmmm - no sugar just the tea - many thanks

thankyou vicmac

Im glad we agree, it can be lonely sometimes, knowing whats coming and now one else around you knowing or believing it...but I know we have nothing at all to worry about.

now sit and listen nmarks - many thanks for the tea by the way..

The human species has backed itself into a corner by four apocolyptic horsemen of it's own invention:

Exhausted land and sea due to overfarming
General ecological degradation due to overpopulation
Climate instabilty due to the release of massive amounts of carbon into the atmosphere over the space of a couple of hundred years. Carbon that took nature millions of years to lock into the crust
Finally, most terrifying of all and the most immediate threat to our civilisation; the peak of our carbon-based energy supply

This is, I believe, the best of times.

It's downhill from here on.

Steve

, Yeah - you are right, it is all prophesied in Revelations, in particular I believe the chapter 18.
Cities burned - now I am no scholar though I would question whether or not it is literal cities or FINANCIAL CITIES?

Steve - I always take your posts and dissect them and in many ways you have got it right - but this is a catastrophe that is coming and smart though you and I might be - we are still only able to discern cause and effect right now.

It is the tendency of the religiously inclined to believe that their beliefs are the basis of reality. That being the case, everything is allowed within that reality.

Someone once said, "in a world without God, good men do good things and bad men do bad things. However, it takes religion to make good men do bad things".

I would broaden this out a little and replace "religion" with "ideology" in general. Ideologies are at the root of most of the human tradgedy. Your religion is another one of those ideologies. Probably the most henious of all.

Your ideology is my enemy no less than any other.

Steve

Nicolaj - what do you make of the beast and his making of almost all mankind take his mark without which noone can buy or sell?

I have my theories on this mainly technologically based on what is possible today - what is your thinking on this?

Steve once again - listen and learn.

Who made you, who designed you, did you evolve from a lump of goooo (you are making a good case for that weak theory right now) so listen and then give your counsel.

Interesting responses

I can't help feeling big changes are much closer than many might imagine

Our descent into a 'post democratic' society might be very rapid

Daily Mail front page tomorrow - household bills up! Shock horrow....

babylon is falling...Praise our God

Oh vicmac64 I've been praying for this day...how many signs as the world been given and each one ignored.

well you ideology is not my enemy - and neither are you. Your ideology is your thinking ( whether or not that is right or wrong you will have to coem to terms with that ).

I respect your views and thoughts and so should you mine.

......anyway - back to house prices.

Up, down, sideways or something else during 2008.

Quick straw poll please?

Oh well, at least we get a chance to beat the French at football on Wednesday before the end of the world.

well I don't know if Rev 8 should be taken literally and whether or not we should assume the city was burned by literal fire.

Or whether or not it refers to a financial fire that ends our financial system as we know it - but one thing is sure - whatever John is talking about it will come to pass.

Right now it seems to me that man would do anything to secure his financial future - which to be honest as I get older really isn't all that important at all.....................................................

and I think this is the important thing to remember in all of this

It's when they all become Man U fans and have Rooney tops from JJB

What - as a Norn Ireland supporter (we beat you last time we met big time) I really hope England do beat the French. But only just !!!! ha ha ha ha

I'm sometimes a bit slow on the uptake, but can someone tell me - is HPC a front for some religious cult ?

Aye well - to support rooney you'd have to be a looney

You are hilarious. One minute yapping about some biblical end of days, the next breath footy.

....I was just checking myself.

So i'll repeat the question:-

Agreed mattsta

Down for sure.

And by the way, People's Front of Judea.

Excellent. I was on the right site after all.

Safe in that knowledge - im off to bed.

Yeah - as hilarious as this site... if you like - read Revelations 18 AND THEN COMMENT.

Just a few years ago - 50 or 60 the UK believed in the bible - maybe you are ahead of your time or mabe you got too far ahead?

Me - well the old time faith is good enough.

Not forgetting the other great British response in the face of catastrophe - 'Let's have a sit down' (copyright Shawn Of The Dead)

I cannot respect your ideology. Though, I respect you as a human sufficiently to explain why.

An ideology is, by definition, a narrative designed to explain reality. Most notably, those aspects of reality that are not easily accessible to empirical validation (e.g. why are we here?).

An ideology tries to explain the above by reference to a story, or explanation, if you like, that is constructed independent and prior to any evidential basis for it. This is one of the main reasons ideologies tend to be self referential. The more self referential the better, in fact. This way, they don't have to be troubled by little things such as external reality.

I can only have respect for any belief that is based in the real and physical world.

Ideologies are not correctly described as merely another belief. They are (and I am sure you will agree with at least this) an act of faith.

Faith is, by definition, a belief in something in the absence of evidence. Why? Because, if you have evidence, faith becomes unnecessary.

Steve

huh? did you say something logical

well then you have said it all - you have no respect for my ideology.

Yet you cannot answer my question - who designed you?

You tell me o enlightened one....

I can of course answer your question.

no-one.

I was not designed.

No not at all - all types resond on this site and rightly so - I am a libbertarian.

I have my beliefs and I will express them in the context of HPC and the devastation shortly to occur in our financial markets.

Is it this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_tribulation?

or this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_World_Ord...iracy_theory%29?

worth reading.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_..._similarities_6 and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_..._similarities_5

sorry my server is really slow..don't know if it's this site.

paper money will be done away with altogether thats a cert.so it as to be technologically based somehow.....I do believe though in pre tribulation so I don't think it would matter to us..only the ppl left where to accept it or not.

OH yeah so thats why you are so ugly?

I'm joking of course - but pray tell me in a reasoned manner why you have such symmetry - two eyes more or less on the same level - hey and two ears too!, wow this evolution from apiece of mud is real efficient!!!

Get real - just look in the mirror - this didn't just happen - it was designed!!! And you cant get away from this fact (unless you look like quasimodo)