Scarlets, maybe you should try gay sex.

I remember Cameron trying to be trendy mentioning civil partnership in a tory conference once, it didn't go down well at all.

I bet there are a lot of tories who secretly go down real good.

It's nice to hear the tories talk of the family, but what do they mean?

It's nice to hear the tories talk of the family, but what do they mean?

Notice how they don't talk about marriage anymore, but "family". And "family" is fastly becoming whatever people want to define it as, no more do we have the gold standard of marriage being encouraged. Standards are slipping. NuLabour and their secular friends want us all to say that a gay couple adopting children is just a valid a family as a married couple with kids. Indeed, why stop there- why would polygamy or forced marriage be wrong? Why not incestuous marriages/families?

The tory talk of family is meaningless unless they define it and make it clear they mean marriage between man and woman as the cornerstone of family.

Just for the record:

Nothing wrong with Gay people adopting children, why shouldn'y gay people have a normal family life?

but you seek to deny this privelidge to others, such as a brother and sister, or a man and a monkey

explain to us why it's wrong for a man to have sex with his ape "cousin", and get married, pacific?

explain to us why it's wrong for a man to have sex with his ape "cousin", and get married, pacific?

but you seek to deny this privelidge to others, such as a brother and sister, or a man and a monkey

Just for the record:

Nothing wrong with Gay people adopting children, why shouldn'y gay people have a normal family life? Also nothing wrong with polgamy as long as all the adults are consenting.

However forced marrigiages as wrong because at least one person has not given their consent.

Incest is wrong because of medical problems associated with it, wheter it's morally wrong is also up for debate. I mean if there was not a medical issue and both adults are consenting and happy is it wrong?

Thats an Oxymoron

Nothing wrong with Gay people adopting children, why shouldn'y gay people have a normal family life?

Gay people cannot have a normal family life as they are both of the same sex!!!.

So if a man and a woman cannot have a child so they adopt one, can they have a normal family life?

While part of me is against gay people adopting children, I would think many gay couples could bring up children better than some of those pramfaces out there. Or these two hopeless examples

so tells us why the alleged evolution processes have not made it possible for one men to impregnate another yet?

Can you tell me why God would make some man or woman sterile or infertile?

Why would God do that?

he created Adam, and Adam was fine in that respect otherwise you wouldn't be here
then sin came in and creation groans since that awful time in history

That is such a non-answer.

Let's say you are infertile. Why would God make you infertile and not me?

we're in a fallen creation which is no respector of persons & it's not the hand you get it's what you do with it. Liberal-lefties always want to blame everyone else for their misery and failings, pathetic attitude.

we're in a fallen creation which is no respector of persons & it's not the hand you get it's what you do with it. Liberal-lefties always want to blame everyone else for their misery and failings, pathetic attitude.

While part of me is against gay people adopting children, I would think many gay couples could bring up children better than some of those pramfaces out there. Or these two hopeless examples

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yo...ire/7299527.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7297481.stm

so why can't a man marry an ape?

so tells us why the alleged evolution processes have not made it possible for one men to impregnate another yet?

so why can't a man marry an ape?

Because the Ape cannot give it's consent, so it would be a forced marriage which is wrong in my opinion.

I've answered this before but your program may not yet be capable of processing the response.

An ape does not have the higher brain function to understand marriage and the consequences of entering into it. Therefore, when at the wedding ceremony, it could not repeat the vows or give any consent because it lacks the intelligence to understand the concept, let alone agree to the verbally.

You might as well replace "ape" with "frog" and it will mean the same thing.

giving an orphan to be adopted by a gay couple systematically denies the child of 1. a heterosexual parent 2. either a mum or a dad
you don't need a religious conscience to figure out that's just wrong

he created Adam, and Adam was fine in that respect otherwise you wouldn't be here
then sin came in and creation groans since that awful time in history

how would an ape have to give consent

You can't seriously believe in the book of Genesis? Do you?

Do you really believe in Noahs Ark?

They were just stories handed down, that someone decided to bundle together as an opening chapter for the bible.

but you seek to deny this privelidge to others, such as a brother and sister, or a man and a monkey

how do you know that?

While part of me is against gay people adopting children, I would think many gay couples could bring up children better than some of those pramfaces out there. Or these two hopeless examples

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yo...ire/7299527.stm

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7297481.stm

So if a man and a woman cannot have a child and they adopt one, can they have a normal family life?

My friend is a lesbian, she has a son from a previous relationship but now lives with her female partner. I can assure you that thier family life is no different to the one I have with my wife and son.

I think I know what you are trying to say: "Does a child being brought up by a Gay couple stand more chance of being gay and depriveing them of a so called "Normal" Life?"

I think this is a valid point to raise and goes back to why you are asking the wrong questions, the real question is: are Gay people Gay by design or through learnt bahviour? either way I do think there are enough cases of Gay people bringing up childen for us to do some sort of study to try an answer that question. If the answer is that doesn't matter what sexuality your parents are then I would be all for it.

Exploring the neurobiology of politics, scientists have found that liberals tolerate ambiguity and conflict better than conservatives because of how their brains work.

In a simple experiment reported todayin the journal Nature Neuroscience, scientists at New York University and UCLA show that political orientation is related to differences in how the brain processes information.

Previous psychological studies have found that conservatives tend to be more structured and persistent in their judgments whereas liberals are more open to new experiences. The latest study found those traits are not confined to political situations but also influence everyday decisions.

The results show "there are two cognitive styles -- a liberal style and a conservative style," said UCLA neurologist Dr. Marco Iacoboni, who was not connected to the latest research.

Participants were college students whose politics ranged from "very liberal" to "very conservative." They were instructed to tap a keyboard when an M appeared on a computer monitor and to refrain from tapping when they saw a W.

M appeared four times more frequently than W, conditioning participants to press a key in knee-jerk fashion whenever they saw a letter.

Each participant was wired to an electroencephalograph that recorded activity in the anterior cingulate cortex, the part of the brain that detects conflicts between a habitual tendency (pressing a key) and a more appropriate response (not pressing the key). Liberals had more brain activity and made fewer mistakes than conservatives when they saw a W, researchers said. Liberals and conservatives were equally accurate in recognizing M.

Researchers got the same results when they repeated the experiment in reverse, asking another set of participants to tap when a W appeared.

Frank J. Sulloway, a researcher at UC Berkeley's Institute of Personality and Social Research who was not connected to the study, said the results "provided an elegant demonstration that individual differences on a conservative-liberal dimension are strongly related to brain activity."

Analyzing the data, Sulloway said liberals were 4.9 times as likely as conservatives to show activity in the brain circuits that deal with conflicts, and 2.2 times as likely to score in the top half of the distribution for accuracy.

Sulloway said the results could explain why President Bush demonstrated a single-minded commitment to the Iraq war and why some people perceived Sen. John F. Kerry, the liberal Massachusetts Democrat who opposed Bush in the 2004 presidential race, as a "flip-flopper" for changing his mind about the conflict.

Based on the results, he said, liberals could be expected to more readily accept new social, scientific or religious ideas.

"There is ample data from the history of science showing that social and political liberals indeed do tend to support major revolutions in science," said Sulloway, who has written about the history of science and has studied behavioral differences between conservatives and liberals.

Lead author David Amodio, an assistant professor of psychology at New York University, cautioned that the study looked at a narrow range of human behavior and that it would be a mistake to conclude that one political orientation was better. The tendency of conservatives to block distracting information could be a good thing depending on the situation, he said.

Political orientation, he noted, occurs along a spectrum, and positions on specific issues, such as taxes, are influenced by many factors, including education and wealth. Some liberals oppose higher taxes and some conservatives favor abortion rights.

Still, he acknowledged that a meeting of the minds between conservatives and liberals looked difficult given the study results.

"Does this mean liberals and conservatives are never going to agree?" Amodio asked. "Maybe it suggests one reason why they tend not to get along."

so why can't a man marry an ape?

but you seek to deny this privelidge to others, such as a brother and sister, or a man and a monkey