Northern Rock is the straw that broke the camels back

Constant lies and spin, always trying to cover up their terrible mistakes

Blair "i thought is was the right thing to do" does not make it OK, 10 years of that pr88k

Brown who has completely mismanaged the economy, basically taking out a huge overdraft to maintain the appearance of a booming Britain

THEY HAVE TO GO, AND NOW

Or maybe the Rock that broke the camel's back.

I agree but the problem is the next lot won't be any better.

When he's gone, will we have to have a period of "Debrowning", just like "Destalinization"?

I object to having a PM no one voted for, if ruling partys change leaders they should be made to have a general election within 6 months of the change, the country should not have to put up with a muppet no one wants and got in by default

Exactly, change the quote to "WE HAVE TO GO, AND NOW" then we can have a hpc.co.uk sponsored mass migration of members. Seeing as how i'm already moving away in May I can be one of the first to add my names to the list. I think it would be a great publicity stunt

I think we could easily get a couple of hundred members say they will be moving in the next 2 years.

Brown is no good at deflecting criticism. Blair deflects it back by standing there, lying through his teeth, smiling away, and insisting what he is saying is true.

Brown gets annoyed and irate at people who don't see what he is saying is true. I think there will be an episode when he totally loses it at the media.

Problem is their is little difference between the main partys anymore, everyone on here can think for themselves so the main partys dont cater for that!!

i'm sorry but even the others probably wouldn't

have gone to war on a lie

changed the banking supervision rules, allowing the NR saga to happen

built the Dome

have sold most of our gold at the lowest point in the market

have fiddled with the inflation measure

have allowed half of Eastern europe into the UK when every other major country put them off til 2011

Oh my God this is just the tip of the iceberg

Labours 10 year legacy = USELESS

Don't waste you time ranting on about Labour. It would have been the same with Conversatives. The government is not making the decisions they are just carrying out world policy.

Every time I see brown I want to hit him

Maybe it's just me, but living in the Uk under NuLab/Brown is an experience of mounting stress that cannot be endured indefinitely. At least one of the crucial pillars of sanity is now crumbling and the effects of this are beginning to be felt by ordianary people. There are still many things about this country worth saving, but Brown is steadily working round to those too. We don't even have the realistic prospect of seeing Brown ousted at the next GE, because he has so high a proportion of the electorate in his pay. Even if he was ditched how many people can honestly say they look forward to a Cameron government?

I'm in my mid-forties and see little chance of a general improvement in the way this country is governed in my lifetime. I see little chance of any form of popular uprising that will be of sufficient revoutionary vigour or based on sufficient intelligence. When the masses eventually awaken from their trance they will be waking into a political and economic nightmare. Their reaction will be incoherent and angry, but ultimately ineffectual in bringing about anything better. NuLab will eventually be replaced, but not the entire political system, as is needed.

My desire to leave the country is counterbalanced by a wish to stay and fight.
My wish to stay and fight is negated by the absence of a viable alternative.

I saw a T-shirt on someone the other day "The idiots are winning". Sort of sums it up. I find myself muttering "You couldn't make it up" on an almost hourly basis, despite a growing revultion of the Daily Mail (which I turned to after a growing revultion with the Guardian).

New Labour are in the business of making life ever-more complex and thus ever-more expensive. Something will have to give...

It's true, Labour may be totally contemptible in every respect, but I didn't see a single spark of intiative from the Conservatives to suggest that they would have done it any differently. Unfortunately, UK policy for the last few decades has been little more than mimicry of the White House, until something cataclysmic happens I expect that trend to continue no matter who is in power.

Nothing will ever change until we get a different electoral system,its the old murphys law at the moment it doesn't matter who you vote for you always get the government in charge.

How about we just fast forward 30 years and have a full blown police state and cut all the carp in the meantime. Its gonna happen sooner or later. We can have a gay muslim chief constable in charge that will just about cover all the bases.

When they depart it will be interesting to say the least when the new goverment get hold of the books, now that may well be worth waiting for

But they were certainly guilty of thinking the unthinkable
As people keep pointing out, it's Tweedledum & Tweedledee. The whole political class is rotten to the core. A conspiracy against the public.

And making their own GOLDEN RULES and breaking them!!!!


F*cking useless tw@ts

TB

This is true... but Labour are that incompetent that you dont have to hit them when they are down... just stand back and watch them make mess out of everything they do!!! I think a lot of the Labour failings are to do with Labour POLICY... therefore the Conservatives, or any other ruling party... would not have to justify what they would have done... chances are they would not have created the mess in the first place!!!!


NO MORE BOOM AND BUST!!! ????
Its happened again and it will happen OVER, and OVER again. Anyone who thinks otherwise is DELUDED!!!

TB

The greatest myth perpetuated by people such as Polly Toynbee is that New Labour is a party of the centre ground. It is not - it is a party of fanatics and control freaks with a malevolent desire to destroy liberty in this country. There is something relentless within their psyche. Every day seems to bring another crazy initiative, a new clunking ban, an invasion of privacy, an act of constitutional vandalism. You never know what to expect as there doesn't seem to be any boundaries or rules by which they play. This is surely a taste of what it was like to live under the Taliban.

I now find it immensely stressful to live in this kind of environment and the desire to escape grows ever more urgent. Politics didn't use to be like this. Before New Labour it was quieter, more level-headed, there was much more common sense and respect for tradition, principle and the right for people to be left alone to get on with their lives.

Arguably this is worse. At least under the Taliban women are kept in check.

In case Germaine Greer is reading this - ONLY JOKING, LOVE!

I remember soon after Blair won the election - that hideous false smile (and his minging wife`s even worse smile), really p*ssed me off big time. Now I have to put up with `Grey Blur Stalin` Brown. Now wonder I have been so irascible of late (see Reality Check thread under renting!)

At least with Thatcher you knew where you stood - she was a nasty cow who flogged off the country`s silver and made it abundantly clear that it was everyone for themselves.

Now that all of our national assets are gone, Brown`s only got our liberties to vandalise!

RAAAASSSSSSSS MON!!!

Thank you for reading this

I am sure you will all be very shocked to have seen the photographs in the press of a handcuffed Richard Fitzmaurice being taken off to jail for 34 days. Richard has been a member of Isitfair for some time

I was in touch with his wife yesterday and again today and as far as she knows, he is still roaming the country looking for a home. They expect to find a more permanent abode very soon. The family are shattered at the sentence dished out, but they are supportive of Richard’s stance.

This man had been down every avenue in his attempt to discuss the vagaries of the council tax system. No one was prepared to listen to him. This is the only way that he feels that he might get a hearing.

I would imagine there is much wringing of hands in Westminster today. The picture of a 76 year old ex soldier in handcuffs should bring home something to them. Not sure what, not sure if they even have hearts but someone might be stirred.

I know I am dreaming but the dreams I have are of a much better world for all. It cannot be right to see this man in jail when people committing
heinous crimes still walk free.



I urge you all to write to your MPs, councillors, the Ministers involved with council tax, Hazel Blears blearsh@parliament.uk John Healey healeyj@parliament.uk should reach them. This cannot go on



Many of you like me this week will have received information or letters which will seriously challenge your pocket. News of your council tax rise, news of fuel rises and the severest of the lot, that your income tax will double due to the removal of the 10% tax rate. The piddling rise in your state pension will not cover these items, so it’s cuts or savings, either way we will suffer. There are many young people on low earnings; they too will be hit by the tax rises. Soon the chance of saving for their future will disappear along with the dream of a home of their own.



Please think of Richard and his family and start writing. Please forward this e mail to everyone in your address book. If you wish to write to Richard please send any letters or cards to me and I will forward them to his family.



Yours very much in the cause



Christine