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mattsta1964
This is about a year old I believe but I only just found it

Lou Dobbs on CNN

The world is being carved up quickly into a handful of trading blocks. National states and democratically elected politicians are disapperaing fast and the weapon they can uses to enforce their dystopia on the people is DEBT

Imperialism by the back door, not a single gunshot required

Terrifying
InternationalRockSuperstar
QUOTE (mattsta1964 @ Feb 15 2008, 05:38 PM) *
This is about a year old I believe but I only just found it

Lou Dobbs on CNN

The world is being carved up quickly into a handful of trading blocks. National states and democratically elected politicians are disapperaing fast and the weapon they can uses to enforce their dystopia on the people is DEBT

Imperialism by the back door, not a single gunshot required

Terrifying


It amazes me that CNN show this guy on air - you'd think that some atempt would be made to censor him.
debt-free
QUOTE (mattsta1964 @ Feb 15 2008, 05:38 PM) *
This is about a year old I believe but I only just found it

Lou Dobbs on CNN

The world is being carved up quickly into a handful of trading blocks. National states and democratically elected politicians are disapperaing fast and the weapon they can uses to enforce their dystopia on the people is DEBT

Imperialism by the back door, not a single gunshot required

Terrifying



"mattsta1964", I used to really think you were full of --it, but recent events in the world and way things are going, I realise I had my head buried up my ar--.
My apologies.
mattsta1964
QUOTE (debt-free @ Feb 15 2008, 06:04 PM) *
"mattsta1964", I used to really think you were full of --it, but recent events in the world and way things are going, I realise I had my head buried up my ar--.
My apologies.


It takes quite a bit of time to break peoples' perception of what is going on in the world. There is still alot of denial.

This whole NWO thing has been lurking under the surface for quite a few years, but the impending collapse of the UK economy and the dire problems make these events evermore prescient and alarming. People need to wake up and fast! Our national political system is effectively defunct. We cannot defend ourselves against the creeping NWO agenda. If the British people resist our entry into the EU with a referendum or civil unrest, the international banking system can CRUSH the UK with deflation OR force a run on Sterling and hyperinflation. The sale of the UK's gold reserves by Mr Broon, under duress from Greenspan in 1997 was politically motivated. It basically prevents any intransigent British government from defending Sterling with our remaining gold reserves. Thus, our integration into the EU is now a done deal. It is unstoppable, referendum or no referendum.

Here is Gordon Brown giving his famous New World Order speech to the CBI (It's been posted on here several times before)

Broon lays it on the line to the CBI - May 2007

Be afraid....

Apology accepted by the way, though I've never read you dissing me on the forum! rolleyes.gif

thefinalbear
How many times does he want to say "New World Order" it that video? Its almost as if he was tasked with dropping in the phrase as many times as possible.

Time to call on the French and dust off the Guillotines I think.
mattsta1964
Here's an explanation of the current situation at the Fed reserve

It was posted on the forum last week as a series of charts

These are YouTube vids with commentry explaining the situation

America is under attack here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBZ81hmZuNk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0UqDT9RCDA8...feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxTaw0a5QTY...feature=related
mattsta1964
Latest Fed reserve balance sheet

http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h3/hist/h3hist4.txt

Scroll down to the bottom of the second column, no borrowed reserves.

OUCH!
Red Kharma
QUOTE (mattsta1964 @ Feb 15 2008, 05:38 PM) *
This is about a year old I believe but I only just found it

Lou Dobbs on CNN

The world is being carved up quickly into a handful of trading blocks. National states and democratically elected politicians are disapperaing fast and the weapon they can uses to enforce their dystopia on the people is DEBT

Imperialism by the back door, not a single gunshot required

Terrifying


Just so I am clear - Which bit terrifies you?
thefinalbear
To be honest (being a selfish git) I'd welcome this One World Government, corporations above all else, give up national sovereignty for EU rule, move production to the lowest cost area stuff - IF, and only if, it meant that the UK could sit at the top of the pile and reap the rewards of empire......


Except I don't think that Brown (or anyone else for that matter) is able/willing to let enough of the rewards to trickle down. In fact I think they will get royally screwed by the rest of the New World Order and we'll all lose.

Lower my taxes Brown and then we'll talk about your NWO.


Edit: And why does this new world order seem to need ID cards, tv cameras and access to all my personal info anyway? Seems like this new world order is a little bit to creepy.
Injin
QUOTE (thefinalbear @ Feb 15 2008, 07:18 PM) *
To be honest (being a selfish git) I'd welcome this One World Government, corporations above all else, give up national sovereignty for EU rule, move production to the lowest cost area stuff - IF, and only if, it meant that the UK could sit at the top of the pile and reap the rewards of empire......


Except I don't think that Brown (or anyone else for that matter) is able/willing to let enough of the rewards to trickle down. In fact I think they will get royally screwed by the rest of the New World Order and we'll all lose.

Lower my taxes Brown and then we'll talk about your NWO.


Edit: And why does this new world order seem to need ID cards, tv cameras and access to all my personal info anyway? Seems like this new world order is a little bit to creepy.


The NWO is actually a desperate dream from those who run the financial system and know full well that they are going to lose their major trick - fiat currency - because of advances in home computing and printing. Basically, every few months, the number of people who can forge banknotes increases, and therefore the number of people who attempt to do so increases.

Although the banks can do ultra fine laser printing and all sorts of other tricks to stay one step ahead, the quality level requires to fool a shopkeeper is much, much lower and that's the only level of printing required.

The alternatives at that point are either to move to hard money that can't be copied at all (gold or suchlike) or to get everyone into an accounting database so that they can remove the banknotes entirely and maintain their game. If they go with gold, then they cannot fractionally reserve or make everyone else pay for things via inflation any longer, and their power dies. If they go with removal of banknotes, there will be enormous opposition from all quarters, and there is little chance of success. However, as getting us into the database will keep the banksters in power, that's what they are trying to do.

In short, it's going to cause some fuss but won't work and is actually a cause for celebration - it's the end of the rule by banker we have had for the last 400 years or so.
Fishfinger
I can't see this NWO mullarky lasting too long after the oil starts running dry.......... wink.gif


Edit: Spelling
BarrelShifter

I like this version of Brown's New World Order speech, kind of funky:

Gordon's New World Order
DabHand
Its hard to wage war and oppress others when you dont have the energy available to do so. Silver lining on the long emergency l suppose.

Bear-lite
QUOTE (thefinalbear @ Feb 15 2008, 07:18 PM) *
To be honest (being a selfish git) I'd welcome this One World Government, corporations above all else, give up national sovereignty for EU rule, move production to the lowest cost area stuff - IF, and only if, it meant that the UK could sit at the top of the pile and reap the rewards of empire......


Except I don't think that Brown (or anyone else for that matter) is able/willing to let enough of the rewards to trickle down. In fact I think they will get royally screwed by the rest of the New World Order and we'll all lose.

Lower my taxes Brown and then we'll talk about your NWO.


Edit: And why does this new world order seem to need ID cards, tv cameras and access to all my personal info anyway? Seems like this new world order is a little bit to creepy.



Yes it is a little bit creepy. If you think that don't delve too much because the findings are quite sininister, albeit on conspiracy sites, but you just need to look at what symbols are on the dollar and how it was designed this way after the dollar was taken off the gold standard in the 70's. You tube NWO speeches from Bush snr, Brown, Sarky etc and you certainly know it's on the cards, in what form who knows.

OT but there is a lot of opinion on the net that Madeleine McCann is a PSYOP to introduce more surveillance. I agree with this, in fact I think she will come home.

I used to covet a 4 bed house with a few toilets and a garden. Not now, my future is mortgage free hopefully, wherever that may be.
mattsta1964
QUOTE (Bear-lite @ Feb 15 2008, 07:55 PM) *
Yes it is a little bit creepy. If you think that don't delve too much because the findings are quite sininister, albeit on conspiracy sites, but you just need to look at what symbols are on the dollar and how it was designed this way after the dollar was taken off the gold standard in the 70's. You tube NWO speeches from Bush snr, Brown, Sarky etc and you certainly know it's on the cards, in what form who knows.

OT but there is a lot of opinion on the net that Madeleine McCann is a PSYOP to introduce more surveillance. I agree with this, in fact I think she will come home.

I used to covet a 4 bed house with a few toilets and a garden. Not now, my future is mortgage free hopefully, wherever that may be.


Interesting theory

Where did you read about this please?
Little Professor
Oh FFS, move to offtopic already. Having this nonsense on the main forum makes us all look like nutjobs.
Bear-lite
If you google Madeleine McCann and microchip that should lead you to a few sites.

link

An interesting article above if you look at it from a different perspective.


@mattsa
thefinalbear
QUOTE
Oh FFS, move to offtopic already. Having this nonsense on the main forum makes us all look like nutjobs.




I dunno.........healthy debate is always a good thing..............it may not be directly HPC related but the wider political and economic implications and actions of our esteemed leaders certainly are.

Della
Twisted Truths song:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LEbLvkTwph8
oracle
This ain't just daddy Bush's dream.

This goes back A LONG WAY.

The term NEW WORLD ORDER was first coined by H P Blavatsky(an occultist with satanic tendencies) in the early 1900's

Hitler merely used the slogan as the title for his second book.

IF YOU WANT TO SEE HOW THIS HAS HAPPENED,WHY WE ARE NOW GETTING ENVIRONMENTALISM AND "LETS EXPLORE SPACE TOGETHER"

You had better watch this,it's important:

http://video.google.co.uk/url?docid=-80252...K6uSa8eMSHiitgQ
prophet-profit
I remember a conversation with a fella last year that went along the lines of.....

me: so you believe in all that NWO stuff then?

him: absolutely, do you honestly think that there is not some powerful group behind the western govts / banks etc?

me: hmmmm, well there will be certainly persons of influence. but, if you subscribe to this NWO stuff then surely you must believe in the book of revelation.

him: what's that got to do with it........

and the conversation went on, but my point is if you do fully subscribe to some of the issues raised in this thread, namely there is a NWO, Old Nick is behind it all etc., then by default you must believe in God and the Book of Revelation.

This is not a crass attempt at de-railing this thread using religion, but hopefully most of you can see the point I am making.

you can't have one (NWO) etc. without the other (God) can you?
narrowescape
QUOTE (prophet-profit @ Feb 17 2008, 10:55 AM) *
I remember a conversation with a fella last year that went along the lines of.....

me: so you believe in all that NWO stuff then?

him: absolutely, do you honestly think that there is not some powerful group behind the western govts / banks etc?

me: hmmmm, well there will be certainly persons of influence. but, if you subscribe to this NWO stuff then surely you must believe in the book of revelation.

him: what's that got to do with it........

and the conversation went on, but my point is if you do fully subscribe to some of the issues raised in this thread, namely there is a NWO, Old Nick is behind it all etc., then by default you must believe in God and the Book of Revelation.

This is not a crass attempt at de-railing this thread using religion, but hopefully most of you can see the point I am making.

you can't have one (NWO) etc. without the other (God) can you?


I can see your point but I disagree. If you have a person or group of people who believe that it is their "destiny" to fulfil certain prophecies, and who have sufficient resources and time to carry it through then that delusion, by itself, can be enough to make the "prophecy" happen, deity or no. Messiah (and presumably the opposite) complexes have been present throughout the course of history, and in fact it is often the case that people who start out with a bit too much power are more prone to these as they fall into the trap of believing that their position of elevated power is actually a "sign" that they are destined for Biblical greatness.

Edit: Duplicate word
Injin
QUOTE (prophet-profit @ Feb 17 2008, 10:55 AM) *
I remember a conversation with a fella last year that went along the lines of.....

me: so you believe in all that NWO stuff then?

him: absolutely, do you honestly think that there is not some powerful group behind the western govts / banks etc?

me: hmmmm, well there will be certainly persons of influence. but, if you subscribe to this NWO stuff then surely you must believe in the book of revelation.

him: what's that got to do with it........

and the conversation went on, but my point is if you do fully subscribe to some of the issues raised in this thread, namely there is a NWO, Old Nick is behind it all etc., then by default you must believe in God and the Book of Revelation.

This is not a crass attempt at de-railing this thread using religion, but hopefully most of you can see the point I am making.

you can't have one (NWO) etc. without the other (God) can you?

Existence of believers is not existence of what they believe in.


injustice
QUOTE (prophet-profit @ Feb 17 2008, 10:55 AM) *
you can't have one (NWO) etc. without the other (God) can you?


Sorry, that's nonsense. Rich and powerful people want to stay rich and powerful, and will use whatever means are available to them.
Wario
QUOTE (prophet-profit @ Feb 17 2008, 10:55 AM) *
him: absolutely, do you honestly think that there is not some powerful group behind the western govts / banks etc?

me: hmmmm, well there will be certainly persons of influence. but, ...

Wouldn't surprise me that much, but I could care less. If there are, Their machinations are completely opaque to me, and on current form, such 'evidence' as I've been presented with (no, nobody here; out in the big room, and quite insistently) points to Them being halfwits.

Which could be bad news for the rest of us sad.gif
prophet-profit
QUOTE (injustice @ Feb 17 2008, 11:44 AM) *
Sorry, that's nonsense. Rich and powerful people want to stay rich and powerful, and will use whatever means are available to them.

OK to rephrase it for you:

you can't have NWO (with Old Nick behind it as implied in this thread). without the other (God) can you?

prophet-profit
QUOTE (Injin @ Feb 17 2008, 11:39 AM) *
Existence of believers is not existence of what they believe in.

Good answer

and therefore, this applies to both sides; so for those who believe in NWO + Old Nick behind it must automatically believe in God (whether or not Old Nick / God exists)
narrowescape
QUOTE (prophet-profit @ Feb 17 2008, 12:28 PM) *
Good answer

and therefore, this applies to both sides; so for those who believe in NWO + Old Nick behind it must automatically believe in God (whether or not Old Nick / God exists)


That only necessarily applies to those people both within (if it exists) or outside the organisation, who choose to believe the "+ Old Nick behind it" part.
Injin
QUOTE (narrowescape @ Feb 17 2008, 12:56 PM) *
That only necessarily applies to those people both within (if it exists) or outside the organisation, who choose to believe the "+ Old Nick behind it" part.


Yup.

Do I believe there is a bunch of dickheads trying to exert power and influence over the masses by any means?

Sure.

Do I believe that they are doing it for ideological reaons, some including god, nationhood etc?

Sure.

Do I believe in god, nations etc?

No.

Sorted.
debt-free
QUOTE (Red Kharma @ Feb 15 2008, 07:01 PM) *
Just so I am clear - Which bit terrifies you?



A one world goverment, controlling everything and enslaving the entire population into a life of unceasing labour and misery, with no rights to privacy or freedom to travel. That my friends scare the fu--ing shit out of me.

The NWO (Illuminati) or behind everything and there is no opposition. They do have an achilles heel. The Electoral Roll System.
fiddlethefigures
QUOTE (debt-free @ Feb 17 2008, 05:49 PM) *
A one world goverment, controlling everything and enslaving the entire population into a life of unceasing labour and misery, with no rights to privacy or freedom to travel. That my friends scare the fu--ing shit out of me.

The NWO (Illuminati) or behind everything and there is no opposition. They do have an achilles heel. The Electoral Roll System.


How To Steal Elections And Control The Media, Well worth watching if you have a spare couple hours

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=...655342219448521

from the thread
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...=64586&st=0
Red Kharma
QUOTE (debt-free @ Feb 17 2008, 05:49 PM) *
A one world goverment, controlling everything and enslaving the entire population into a life of unceasing labour and misery, with no rights to privacy or freedom to travel. That my friends scare the fu--ing shit out of me.

The NWO (Illuminati) or behind everything and there is no opposition. They do have an achilles heel. The Electoral Roll System.


Sounds like you're a glass half empty kinda guy.

Can't say I'll lose much sleep over it. Far worse has been going on all over the planet since the beginning of time. What's the worst that can happen huh?
Tony2007
QUOTE (Bear-lite @ Feb 15 2008, 08:18 PM) *
If you google Madeleine McCann and microchip that should lead you to a few sites.

link

An interesting article above if you look at it from a different perspective.


@mattsa


It's Problem-Reaction-Solution in operation yet again because it works so well on the minds of the sheeple. I think the first group to be chipped will be defendents who are on restraining orders. I saw a newspaper report in my local newspaper about a guy who removed his ankle bound tracking device and murdered a young women. The obvious only solution to that problem is an internally placed chip. The agenda seems to be moving forward with alarming speed but most of the people I speak to haven't even begun to connect the dots.
Justice
QUOTE (Fishfinger @ Feb 15 2008, 07:38 PM) *
I can't see this NWO mullarky lasting too long after the oil starts running dry.......... wink.gif


I'm not so sure it is running out and if you connect the dots of 9/11 then it's all about grabing oil and pushing the price up or did you forget that GW-Bush comes from Texas and his family are oil billionhairs.

Problom=Terror
Reaction=Save us
Solution=Police state and RFID's

It's not so much about the oil running out but more the economy going inot meltdown and with the money gone then they need another way to control the masses and what better way then to turn the USA/UK into a prison with the use of technoligy.

We are in dangerious times and Russia and China are holding them back because they are not on side yet.









mattsta1964
QUOTE (Justice @ Feb 19 2008, 08:58 AM) *
I'm not so sure it is running out and if you connect the dots of 9/11 then it's all about grabing oil and pushing the price up or did you forget that GW-Bush comes from Texas and his family are oil billionhairs.

Problom=Terror
Reaction=Save us
Solution=Police state and RFID's

It's not so much about the oil running out but more the economy going inot meltdown and with the money gone then they need another way to control the masses and what better way then to turn the USA/UK into a prison with the use of technoligy.

We are in dangerious times and Russia and China are holding them back because they are not on side yet.


It's a weird feeling when you consider the US government and our own Government more of a threat to your freedom and liberty than Russia and Putin.......who i believe is engaged in a battle Royale behine the scenes to keep the international banks and western corporate interests out of Russia....
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