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DissipatedYouthIsValuable
We must be told.
barsark
Knock, knock.................

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DissipatedYouthIsValuable
QUOTE (barsark @ Jan 8 2008, 11:51 AM) *
Knock, knock.................

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I've got a subscription to the Daily Mail and everything.
needle
QUOTE (DissipatedYouthIsValuable @ Jan 8 2008, 11:46 AM) *
We must be told.


Indeed we must.

More censors**p from HPC.

Bad form.


mSparks
QUOTE (needle @ Jan 8 2008, 12:09 PM) *
Indeed we must.

More censors**p from HPC.

Bad form.

#second that
few more of these types of debacles and I follow the rest of the HPC casulties
Bloo Loo
QUOTE (mSparks @ Jan 8 2008, 12:51 PM) *
#second that
few more of these types of debacles and I follow the rest of the HPC casulties


start your own thread on the subject
Son of Taeper
QUOTE (DissipatedYouthIsValuable @ Jan 8 2008, 11:46 AM) *
We must be told.

If you had bothered to check, the op of that thread requested it be removed
VacantPossession
There is no conspiracy, no cover up, no censorship by HPC or anything remotely suspicious. I will be frank: My principle aim in the original thread was to question whether there was a degree of media restriction on the reporting of house prices beyond that imposed by the property industry and the media itself. In that thread I gave what I thought might be the background to other media reporting restrictions on various issues outside housing, and these are now globally accepted as a legitimate issue to discuss. However I became aware that my own posts could possibly be construed as a blanket disapproval of ALL reporting restrictions, which is not the case. I also believe that we should have an efficient force to combat terrorism and crime. My thread was solely about whether it was really necessary or desirable to restrict reporting where that restriction would invite suspicion and undermine our confidence in the media.

On re-reading my own posts, I don't think that came across in the right way. Since the bulk of posts in that thread were my own, I requested its deletion. I realise that perhaps a better course of action would have been to simply edit my own posts, but I feared whatever I did would somehow be interpreted as back-tracking through outside pressure. In fact, later in the thread I discussed some articles on the D notice website which I thought were sensible, and others which I felt were not helpful, but looking at the overall thread, I was not as balanced as such a sensitive issue would require.

No pressure was put on me at all. It was solely my own decision.

VP
Son of Taeper
QUOTE (The_Oldie @ Jan 8 2008, 12:50 AM) *
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I removed the thread that you are discussing, yesterday, at the specific request of the thread starter.

End of story
Paddles
QUOTE (VacantPossession @ Jan 8 2008, 01:04 PM) *
No pressure was put on me at all. It was solely my own decision.

VP


We know they got to you, VP. What did they do, make you sign the Official Secrets Act? Threaten your family?

It's nothing to be ashamed of, even the strongest have a breaking point....
DissipatedYouthIsValuable
QUOTE (VacantPossession @ Jan 8 2008, 01:04 PM) *
No pressure was put on me at all. It was solely my own decision.

VP


They would make you say that though, wouldn't they?
bearbullfence
QUOTE (Paddles @ Jan 8 2008, 01:14 PM) *
We know they got to you, VP. What did they do, make you sign the Official Secrets Act? Threaten your family?

It's nothing to be ashamed of, even the strongest have a breaking point....



Offered to buy his BTL off him at market price???
barsark
VP, you will rue the day that post was removed wink.gif , it will linger like the after effects of a house price boom.

The no win situation of the conspiracy theorist.

Deny it and they got to you.
Ignore it and they got to you.
Admit it and somehow they got to you.

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DabHand
QUOTE (VacantPossession @ Jan 8 2008, 01:04 PM) *
There is no conspiracy, no cover up, no censorship by HPC or anything remotely suspicious. I will be frank: My principle aim in the original thread was to question whether there was a degree of media restriction on the reporting of house prices beyond that imposed by the property industry and the media itself. In that thread I gave what I thought might be the background to other media reporting restrictions on various issues outside housing, and these are now globally accepted as a legitimate issue to discuss. However I became aware that my own posts could possibly be construed as a blanket disapproval of ALL reporting restrictions, which is not the case. I also believe that we should have an efficient force to combat terrorism and crime. My thread was solely about whether it was really necessary or desirable to restrict reporting where that restriction would invite suspicion and undermine our confidence in the media.

On re-reading my own posts, I don't think that came across in the right way. Since the bulk of posts in that thread were my own, I requested its deletion. I realise that perhaps a better course of action would have been to simply edit my own posts, but I feared whatever I did would somehow be interpreted as back-tracking through outside pressure. In fact, later in the thread I discussed some articles on the D notice website which I thought were sensible, and others which I felt were not helpful, but looking at the overall thread, I was not as balanced as such a sensitive issue would require.

No pressure was put on me at all. It was solely my own decision.

VP


It seems very particular of you to request a thread deletion because you didn't feel a subtlety of you opinion was apparent enough. It was an interesting thread and your posts were merely food for thought on an internet forum not contributions to a critical parliamentry debate. People change their perceived or actual positions, get misunderstood or play devils advocate during threads all the time.

Therefore I dont think thread deletion was a valid request. It seems so incredibly precious, especially given the subject matter that l wonder if you aren't having some fun at our expense.
JimmyMac
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this is hilarious
doggadogdog
He is right to be worried and to ask to have the thread removed. Once it is grabbed by google it is there on the net for eternity. To be googled by any future government agency

At the moment we live in a relatively stable country, with world events going badly wrong at an alarming rate who knows what kind of government could be installed into power.

A nuclear strike against a western target could lead to all kinds of changes. Internment for Muslims? It happened in the USA for Japanese during the 2nd world war who knows what kind of mess the human race will get itself into.

Everyone knows that poor old David Kelly was bumped off by elements of the British government/establishment. VP has a right to be worried having his name associated with a D notice discussion gone bad.




edit typo, brain not in gear...
fumble
QUOTE (VacantPossession @ Jan 8 2008, 01:04 PM) *
No pressure was put on me at all. It was solely my own decision.


Your original post had some keen insights. In particular,

QUOTE (VacantPossession @ Jan 6 2008, 02:17 PM) *
<I'll not post this out of respect for the OP...>


Now 'they' are probably going to be even more scared as they wake up to the fact that its not possible to censor the internet just by deleting the odd posting or two...
DissipatedYouthIsValuable
QUOTE (doggadogdog @ Jan 8 2008, 01:41 PM) *
He is right to be worried and to ask to have the thread removed. Once it is grabbed by google it is there on the net for eternity. To be googled by any future government agency

At the moment we live in a relatively stable country, with world events going badly wrong at an alarming rate who knows what kind of government could be installed into power.

A nuclear strike against a western target could lead to all kinds of changes. Internment for Muslims? It happened in the USA for Japanese during the 2nd world war who knows what kind of mess the human race will get itself into.

Everyone knows that poor old David Kelly was bumped off by elements of the British government/establishment. VP has a right to be worried having his name associated with a D notice discussion gone bad.




edit typo, brain not in gear...


I'm worried about being singled out and shot for thoughtcrime.

Mods - please remove my entire existence from this forum.
The_Oldie
QUOTE (DissipatedYouthIsValuable @ Jan 8 2008, 03:24 PM) *
I'm worried about being singled out and shot for thoughtcrime.

Mods - please remove my entire existence from this forum.


I don't believe that this is a serious request, however, if it is, please confirm to me by PM and it will be actioned.
Charlie The Tramp
QUOTE (needle @ Jan 8 2008, 12:09 PM) *
Indeed we must.

More censors**p from HPC.

Bad form.



I see the professional Mod basher is back. rolleyes.gif

Lest we forget, a reply by a respected Mod to another dissenter. dry.gif


QUOTE
You need to remember that HPC is not a public institution and is not accountable to anyone. The site and the mods can manage this site as they see fit. Participation in the site is voluntary. All comments about "open forum", "free speech", etc. are misconceived. HPC is not bound by any of such rules, nor do they exist for any other private entity. Just as the Telegraph is perfectly entitled to only publish columns that support the Tories, and the Guardian is entitled to only publish left-wing commentary, if they both so chose, so is HPC entitled to decide what it does and does not tolerate on its site. So even if HPC had a policy of making the forum one sided - which it has not - that would be up to HPC to do. I don't understand where this notion is coming from that HPC is somehow obliged to maintain a balanced debate and freedom of speech - and your alluding to not doing so being "dangerous". This is also the reason why we do not require the committees you suggest. Mods exercise their discretion, that's the end of it. It's only an Internet forum for Christ's sake.

On the BBC, "Have your say", this is practised all the time, without anyone batting an eyelid. Moderators employed by the BBC on "Have Your Say" select, at their discretion, the posts that will be published. I have submitted countless posts to BBC "Have your say" that did not get published. Nobody has ever demanded that the BBC publishes a justification for every single post that they chose not to publish on HYS. Why is it that this is demanded of HPC?

Whilst trying to allow a balanced discussion on house prices, HPC moderation policy is to move posts that are supect of being troll posts to the troll subforum and deleting or blocking the accounts of suspected trolls and those that breach the forum rules. Anyone not happy with this or any other moderation policy is free to not visit HPC.


And that is how I have seen it since I registered in 2004.
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