I've thoroughly enjoyed my time on HPC.

I have been an HPC bear for the last 3 years, and am delighted to see that my belief in markets hasn't been misplaced, just slightly mis-timed.

The last few weeks in particular I have found an increasing number of posts becoming nasty and hateful in their nature, as opposed to playful and enjoying good honest open debate.

That isn't something I wish to spend my time engaging in.

I have be staggered by the quality of posts, the time spent by fellow posters, and have learned a great deal. My view on life is that we should never stop learning, and I am happy to say I learn something from reading the posts and resource links posted on this site every day.

I am old enough, and hopefully wise enough to recognise BS when I read/hear it, and all I would say is I encourage you to think about the reasons behind some of the more aggressive and derogatory/dismissive posters. They are not here for thier benefit, since they beleive there is nothing they could learn from anybody, so you might like to think why they are here. I think you will learn it has little to do with house prices or the economy.

All the best, and enjoy your HPC. It is likely to be a good 'un.

Sorry to see you leave, I too have found this site _very_ educational - though I agree... none of the amateur analysis posted here should be taken at face value - rather merely as a starting point from which to start your own research.

I share your view that some with less insight than average have become rather hot under the collar, but - I think - there are plenty of others who remain on the quest for a balanced view.

Enjoy your HPC too.

Don't go! We all would very much appreciate the good to outnumber the bad and your departure will only mean there is one less good poster with more than an ounce of common sense (rather than gold)....well if you feel you must...

Red Kharma - don't go - your views help make this site what it is - and I for one respect them and enjoy reading them...

Seriously - please stay.

See ya, wouldn't want to be ya.

Thanks for all the fish?

No - they are all good posters with different opinions and views which should be respected by all of us.

Thanks for the message of goodwill

I agree with your point on some of the more extreme posters, although I fully understand the anger and rage that can occasionally erupt in some posts. But interesting times lie ahead that's for sure !!

Good kharma to you mate

I hope you'll be back - I enjoyed your posts on the markets and particularly your posts that provided a foil to the endless and frankly tedious gold ramping.

Its a sad loss. I like your posts

Have a HPC break over christmas and come back in the new year. Come on, this is just getting good!

Hear, Hear!

How about we ban gold posts in th main forum!? I will start a poll!

who will we have to debunk the tin hat conspiracy theorists (like myself ) ??

take a short break, it's just getting very, very interesting (& scary) right now.

GOM.

Ve vant zere names, all of zem!

Yes--it is a shame that some resort to personal slurs. Need a rogues gallary somewhere. I think most of them will turn out to be "Neithers" as most of the bulls have gone in the light of the HPC. They should come back in a few years time though--when its time to be bullish again.

Yes RK, all far too interesting just now to jump/abandon ship!

I love these posts. "I'm going but don't want a fuss. BTW here are the bad people that made me leave"


Mate if you want to go then go. Don't make a song and dance about it. Then again it's the age of princesses. "Look at me everyone. I'm special."


I'm hoping that you never read this because if you do your just like the 10 year old who announces that he is running away from home only to get to the gate looking back sullenly.

Anyway if you do read this - Get over yourself. Your name is not Red Kharma, HPC.co.uk is a web site (not quite real life but there are compelling arguments that it's close) and to paraphrase Tyler Derden "you are not a special little snowflake".






FWIW - I hope you find what you are looking for

You don't want to leave before the pudding is served do you ? Come come, have a waffer thin mint,
tease the activists a bit and observe the unfolding totally-told-you-all-so-years-ago drama with some like-minded souls.
Coffee will be served in the billiards room after the main event. In case of hyperinflation be prepared to accept
ersatz.

Pent

I think that would be a bad idea.

We all have learnt so much from posts that stem from GOLD related posts imo...
you could read the main GOLD post from start to finish & that would probably be better than reading 10 books on economics imho.

please all remember, just because high inflation will hurt your business & erode your savings doesn't mean it will change if you ban all talk of it.

Who knows which way it will ultimately go:

Deflation or Hyper-inflation

but lets not stop talking about it or we become as bad as the people that prop up the housing market, you know the ones that can't ever see prices going down.

Please think carefully before commenting with regards to this obviously very touchy subject.

I am keeping an open mind, but personally with what I am witnessing I see a very high inflationary period coming. If something changes then I will alter my point of view.

It would be a shame if you left - although I can see why - the bankruptcy thread is a case in point.......but that would only be letting the more unpleasant posters on here get their way in driving out the more balanced voice of reason. IMHO.

Kharma, I would be sad to see you leave.

Many people here have gotten insulted over time: bears, bulls, deflationists, inflationists. Usually it is dealt with, and the insulting party either disappears or gets set straight. Discussions can be heated, but we should keep our dignity and we should respect each other and our wide range of opinions.

Whose toys are these strewn all over the site? I thought we were talking about house prices.

Well said

Agree with all that gom...although the last bit, I feel the argument has tilted the other way over the last couple of days. Demand collapsing, default destroying capital ...all we need is for the carry trade to go into reverse (oh my God is the injection of liquidity to stop banks becoming insolvent and pay back dollars to anybody who wants to redeem them? )

And Mr Red Kharma, if you're reading this, you haven't gone. What would you do with your time anyway. Your days will be empty. Either swallow your pride and say you're coming back due to popular demand...or get another id.

True...to a point

RC, sorry to hear your leavin dude.

I have always found the people here generally friendly and helpful.. pity you had a bad experience.

Feel free to lurk any time

Red K, we all feel like jacking it in at some time. It often crosses my mind, should I be posting on a website that allows overtly racist posts? Then I think what the hell, racism exists in the real world, so it sure as hells going to exist in the anonymous world of internet chat forums. Besides why should the rest of the board suffer the loss of my superior intellect, because of the short comings of a few rabid nut jobs.


Anyway when I decide to go, I'm saying nowt, as I don't want clever @rsed gotee sporting posters to belittle my departure. But the board will know I've gone, if only because of the smell I'll leave behind........There again the council may decide to bury me for Heath and Safety reasons


get back here now.

Please think again before quitting the forum. There are some excellent and well informed posters on here...agreed that some posters are challenged on the politeness front, but internet forums are not famous for their gentlemanly conduct!

It is worth logging on just for the great links!

Personally, I think you're a bit obsessed with goldbugs. There are many, in fact the vast majority of threads on this forum, which have nothing to do with gold. You seem to me to have a somewhat irrational dislike of anybody who so much as mentions gold in a positive light. I've suffered your attacks myself for some fairly innocuous but perfectly reasonable remarks on gold.

If people want to talk about gold then who are you to tell them they can't? People are free to talk about whatever they wish. You are free to ignore subjects you don't like.

Have you considered getting over your irrational fear of gold by buying yourself a nice 1oz Britannia

You can talk about gold all you like, but in the "metals" forum please.

Good post. As you so correctly state, the subject of gold leads directly on to many far broader economic areas. How can you seriously talk about house prices crashes/inflation/deflation if some intolerant person bans the use of the word 'G O L D'

But, um, there's a massive gold thread on the main forum where it's been for a rather long time.

Yes, that one thread was moved back to the main forum by popular request. Are you saying that sets a precedent and that it should be moved to metals?

I think it should remain on the main forum because judging by its size, it's a popular subject.

Yes, the dreaded 'g' word does come up sometimes in other threads but I think that's inevitable given its broad entanglement with so many areas of economics.

I see many threads on the main forum that are no more related to housing than gold. It really doesn't bother me. I don't like censorship.

Sorry your leaving but I still think your Micheal Fish.

kb

Why do people feel the need to say 'goodbye'?

it's a frickin web forum FFS, it's not like you are emigrating - and anyway if you were...it's still a web forum FFS

Perhaps you could accept that people think and act different from yourself and not post exactly the same thing
(yet) again next time someone says 'goodbye' ? It's getting tedious.

Pent

that's my point - it's so tedious.

Its a web forum, you don't have to use it everyday, hey why not pop in every month or so to catch up on news. But you're likely to find yourself browing again one day - but because you've said goodbye does that mean you can't reply to something that might interest you? Why impose that on yourself, for what gain?

Or perhaps it is a sign of the addictive power of HPC that people feel they need to go 'cold turkey'?

yep confine to the investments section. and that goes for any general ramping of X asset class....

I second that! Let's move the Gold posts off where they belong.

As for Red - I'd be pleased if you would stick around: keep the ratio of good posters to rampers up. Why not just have a hiatus over Christmas: come back and cheer on the downslide in the New Year.

TD

I agree entirely, hypothetically, Goldfinger; however Red is absolutely correct in stating that some come here to learn while others don't and indeed are incapable of entering into a dialogue rather than a diatribe. Your final statement - entirely praisworthy BTW - could be directed most closely to your own best-buddy CGNAO who is demonstrative of the very worst: coming here to preach rather than learn and disrespect others with complete intolerance of their views. I choose not to follow any of his threads now (despite occasional grains of interest amongst the hyperbole) for the very reasons Red Kharma says have precipitated his leaving.

Perhpas your final statement should become the HPC motto! "Keep our dignity, respect each other and our wide range of opinions."

TD

Ooooohhhhh a bit cutting GCS, and i had you down as a empathy ridden person with your Glasgow coma scale dictating a medical grounding.

No objection to people talking of gold - and actually RK didn't speak of 'banning' it at all - but how hard can it be for goldbugs to understand the concept of posting in the 'metals forum'? Don't ban it - just post appropriately then everyone can enjoy reading what they're interested in.

TD

I don't think anybody has difficulty understanding the concept of posting in the metals forum. The problem is the range of subjects on the main forum with a direct relationship to gold, ie. credit crunch, dollar, inflation, deflation etc. These subjects are of course also related to HPC.

Anyway, I think the current position is that it's ok to mention gold on some of these threads (where relevant) as long as the thread isn't hijacked, which sounds reasonable to me.

Agreed!

TD

Inflation, deflation, fiat currency, gold, are all relevant to future house prices which may or may not crash in real, or nominal terms depending whether you're in the inflation on deflation camp. The macroeconomic discussions are the lifeblood of this forum and the biggest ongoing discussion threads relate to these. Of course, sentiment rules where emotional things like houses are concerned, so great to hear what the word on the street is in all the counties, towns and cities.

If you don't like what people say, then move on, but why not just move on to the next thread, not off the board entirely?

where are you going?

Is there somewhere else as interesting and dynamic as here?

Or is it the RSI setting in???

I know somebody had a right go at you recently, but, hey, its only a website, and they didnt get any support.

www.goldpricecrash.co.uk

Couldn't agree more. Like I said on yet another 'I have HPC OCD Disorder' thread - yawn - it's only an internet forum (not your entire lives!), go out and get laid or something FFS.

I also love all the 'No, don't go! We need you' replies. Don't you people have any real friends?

Exactly. This is why I am arguing that it would be a mistake to apply any restrictions to posting regarding the 'g' word, especially just because one person appeared to have a bit of a bee in their bonnet about the subject.

Having said that, if a thread isn't primarily about gold then people should obviously not go around hijacking it. Have to say though, I've seen little of this going on.