Dear moderators,

I am flabbergasted by your decision to move the stagflation thread I started today away from the main forum.

Understanding where we are in the business and interest rate cycle is of paramount importance for any home buyer or owner, and especially so at critical turning points like now.

I have overwhelming evidence that after decades of mismanagement and political interference from governments, major central banks around the world have lost control of the situation and we are on the verge of the most serious monetary disruption in recorded history.

I have nothing to profit by warning the public on this forum. On the contrary, it costs me time, effort and patience.

I must now question whether I should continue. I ask now the public here on HPC if they think the Stagflation thread is relevant for house prices and therefore should be moved back on the main forum. If not, or if this poll thread is moved, I'll take it as a sign that my presence here is not welcome and will leave the forum.

Aherm... is that really the case if you hold metals in your portfolio? :-)

Maybe the title was a little "economic" rather than "house" oriented?

Personally, I find the economic stuff the most interesting, but I realise that it doesn't appeal to as wide an audience as the 'real' stuff involving estate agents... It is a shame that it isn't possible to 'filter' your own personal forum to include or exclude 'heavy' articles... that would be ideal - but, I admit, unlikely to be practical.

the whole thing about house price crash is down to the current financial marketplace.

If we are to make observations on the main topic, then we need all the info we can get, even if it is not 100% guaranteed

<searches in vain for handbag smilie>

I'm in the mood for a bit of stagflation today. Here's the original post so you can have a look what he's on about:
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...showtopic=61056

I remain very interested to discover how oil price trends and government spending compare now to the 1970s. I can't find any data that old... and I don't recall such details from my time at toddlers' group.

My beer thread got moved too! Disgraceful.

Haven't we been here before?

cygno's had more comebacks than Rocky Balboa.

If the stagflation thread is removed, then so should 90% of all other threads on the main board. If this site is to continue it should embrace economic topics as the original "house price crash" is being fully debated in main stream media now.

Out of curiosity what is your interest/motivation/location?

I count 7 forums that are related to economics, including one called "economics".

Who'da thunk it?

keep posting cgnao. You are the man, and you know it....

So why do we have and Gold thread on the main forum (which is the most popular thread than all the threads including the pinned ones) and why is there a dollar thread? I could go on.

My point is this: house price crash has gone mainstream so this site needs to reinvent itself if it is to survive - the mods know this, or should do.

Maybe if there were a forum called 'baseless theories for the paranoid' cgnao would have a home of his own?

Hear hear. We fought to save the gold tread too. Cgnao represents an extreme view of the situation. Not only is it important to air that view, but as time passes, the reality moves closer and closer to his scenario. Incidentally, this possibility has been raised many times here before, plus both the FT and the economist called stagflation in their latest editions, so this particular thread is hardly "out there".

I've voted for stagflation, both in the poll and in my recent life choices. Saying that, I hope I am wrong, and suspect if it does come it will be similar to what we have seen already in the last 100 years rather than a monetary holocaust. Put it this way, I just bought some more gold, not iodine and "Russ Myers' Extreme Survival"

We should remember that there are other places people can go to discuss these things. Currently, HPC.co.uk remains the best. Lets keep it that way by staying ahead of the curve.

Not again!!

If you are always 100% correct, guarenteed, why are you so insecure?



Just post away cgnao - I think I have managed to grasp your message by now, but the threads are popular, so others may need your constant repetion. It's a forum - do not expect everyone to 100% agree with you all the time.

Lets' not forget that "everything was fine" about two weeks ago.

Now it's stagflation....

Keep the 'Suffolk Bird Flu' thread, & move all the others






Just relax & trust the great leader,

& be grateful your threads are allowed..... mine aren't, it seems

Stagflation, in pictures.

BEFORE:


AFTER:

genius.

I doff my cap to you sir

What again?! How many times will it be that you've left? Looks like your threats are as empty as your self-inflated prophecies.

Personally I think that those with smaller egos and a less conspicuous need for ego-stroking, those who can argue in a more objectively balanced, factual manner without dramatic hyperbole, and those who are willing to contribute to a dialogue rather than dictatorially handing down a monologue, contribute more constructively to the forum.

I suspect your threat is as likely to be realised as your prophecies. Now, how about picking up your ball and going home?

TD

Thread is relevant in my opinion. Keep posting.

A good argument as to why the Gold thread and the Dollar thread should be removed from the main forum. The Gold thread is not the most popular thread on the main forum, it is a handful of posters blowing each other. Remove the pictures of rockets and it would be 3 pages long.

Yeah no need to leave the forum over a moved thread.

I do agree however that the economic message will have profound impact on the housing community, so maybe theres an arguement for keeping it in it's original location.

100%, Guaranteed!

The only reason I joined this forum, 2 days ago, was to both give you, Mr CGNAO, some much needed backup.

Why? Because in the UK Mr CGNAO is the ONLY perrson who has put his balls on the line and made some predictions.

So far Mr CGNAO has been 100 per cent right, and it is inevitable that fundamental economics will prove Mr CGNAO 100& right.




I understand your supreme frustration.

I urge you to please, yet again, take the (inevitable) insult, and carry on carrying on.

This is the crunch - and you being sidellined is par for the course...

You are a danger, as am I ... why? Beacuse I am saying similar things in the USA...

As Mr Jim Sinclair misquoted earlier (yes*) tertoday, Nils Illegitimati Non Carboroundum!!!!!!

A low blow ref metals portfolio. Mr CGNAO has been consistent for a very long time.

And prescient.

And RIGHT.

Good call re the Gold thread. Gets my vote.

TD

Stick with it cgnao! Your work here is much appreciated and a vital contribution to the overall picture.

I also agree that some consolidation of hpc would be a good idea. It's a bit baffling that the site's underlying ethos seems founded on the insight that current house prices aren't a basic "supply and demand, one-way bet", but are rather a strange consequence of huge macroeconomic events. So culling 'big picture' threads from the main forum is very frustrating.

As a wider observation, I think this situation often arises because most forum software uses an inflexible heirarchical model, rather than (say) tags or something a bit cleverer. And I can appreciate that you need to try and manage it all somehow, so I do sympathise with your dilemma! But really, the "main forum" is where the action is, so people are going to want to talk about the non-house-specific-but-highly-relevant topics like, say, a plunge in sterling, rampant inflation, or whatever, in the main forum.

Perhaps you could consider something like:



... and then merge topics more aggressively in the forums, instead? That would hopefully keep them usable, but avoid too much dilution of focus/discussion.

Incidentally, thanks for giving us hpc, in whatever form. ;)

I joined the forum partly because I found cgnao's posts interesting, they are informative as regards the turmoil in the financial markets. Please continue.

I don't care how many times he has left, but it is vital he comes back. CGNAO ignore the insults, your posts are respected by many, many lurkers. Mods, wrong again. It's becoming a habit.

CGNAO if you do leave, and you really really shouldn't. PM or post a message to where we can all find your valuable insight.

Whatever you think of CGNAO's style, his information concerns THE trigger for why we will finally see the crash. His posts are about as on topic as you can get and IMHO should not be moved.

CGNAO come back, we need you, even if some don't realise it. Don't let them put you off, look how many off this forum think prices only go up.

He is on topic 100% gauranteed.

I'm just curious, how do you know that cgnaos' posts are respected by many lurkers?

Is there a specific site for hpc lurkers to discuss the opinions posted on hpc?

Err no there isn't a specific site....but I suspect you know that.

We use the phone. Some of us actually know each other in real life.

On the main discussion thread "amnesty for lurkers" many of them have mentioned cgnao and their respect for his posts. May I add mine.

Me too. Many of his predictions have been remarkably prescient. I find it odd that his post on stagflation was moved when many less relevant posts - such as rants about immigration, and the interminable "gold thread" are allowed to remain in the main forum.

The role of the Moderators should be to ensure that there is no abuse or harassment in the postings - on this site I suspect the Moderators are also using their position to politically vet posts and make it difficult for posters who do not agree with their views.

If Cgnao also leaves that will be a crying shame. Many of us, even if we do not agree "100 per cent guaranteed" with his views, enjoy reading them.

Mods could do well refer to Voltaire who recognised the right to free speech: "I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it."

A huge loss. I blame the heavy handed mods - this always happens IMO at all forums, the mods ruin things.

Rasputin at Prudent Bear is along the same lines...

There is nothing less than a system credit collapse quietly underway. Just start to tally up all the reports, writedowns, liquidations (GE's fund comes right to mind) runs on institutions (Countrywide, Northern Rock and now possibly E-Trade), ABX indices crash, governmnet-sponsored bailouts (BofE of the entire U.K. banking system and the U.S. treasury's creation of the SuperSIV), and the flight into treasuries this week, and you will have a picture of the TIP of the iceberg here.

Take a careful look at your electronic fiatsco accounts and try to remove as many "middlemen" as possible between you and your credits.

Then, DUCK!!!, stay low and watch the ensuing bust with much fear and trepidation.

That's about as cheery as I can be at this point...