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DrBubb
this came out a few days ago...

"The House Price Crash is imminent, as First Time Buyers stand aside."

Monthly Report on the UK Housing Market for December 2004,

by independent website housepricecrash.co.uk

We are now witnessing the beginning of the end for the UK property bubble, as the market moves into a serious downturn. Prices in market-leading London are down 5-10% and the scarcity of buyers suggests it has a lot further to go. This has prompted website, HousePriceCrash.co.uk to issue a "Crash is Imminent" warning. This view is backed by the reports and evidence supplied by the members and contributors to the website as well our own research.

Reinhard XXX, press spokesman for housepricecrash.co.uk comments: "The 'Denial' phase, which has run for several months since last summer, is ending. It is becoming increasingly apparent that prices are falling. Those who said that prices would pick up in the fall, or the market would see a gradual sideways correction, are waking up to the reality of an overbuilt and overpriced market with buyers unwilling to pay current asking prices."

There is a growing supply, with sellers seeking to achieve prices at perceived "market value", but these are based upon historical reports of substantial house price growth in the past. Significant number of properties are now advertised as chain-free - evidence suggesting that many "buy-to-let" landlords are also heading for the exit door. But serious buyers are scarce and those that do buy, are only responding to clear bargains. Information we receive from estate agents suggests that aggressive price cuts are required, just to get viewings. Cash buyers are getting big discounts, from sellers who are too nervous to wait in chains. Unfortunately for those sellers holding out, today's bargain price is tomorrow's market level.

"Another phenonemon we see in the market is sales being agreed but subsequently falling through, as buyers are unable to get financing due to lenders becoming more restrictive or surveyors downvaluing the property. Chains also fail because buyers are unable to sell their own properties, which is often down to the failure to find a first time buyer at the bottom of the chain. Gazundering is on the increase, and the average chain length has increased significantly as first time buyers have fallen to record low levels and buy-to-let has slowed sharply," active HPC member Van XXX said.

In the meantime, the overhang of offplan, and soon-to-be-completed new properties is something we are watching closely. Builders are getting nervous. We hear that most new developments have fallen behind on their budgeted sales, and they are getting creative to make sales. Stealth price cuts like paid-stamp-duty, and rental subsidies are proliferating. But builders are avoiding advertising outright price cuts for fear that it will further depress the market. Meanwhile, the builders are quietly offloading their properties at 10-20% discounts to wholesale buyers and through commissioned property finders. If these transactions were more transparent, the market would be sliding faster, in our opinion.

Plenty of properties are quietly being withdrawn from the market with no sale agreed, and it is likely that they will reappear at some point next spring in the hope that the market will be more favourable, as predicted by some commentators with vested interests. "Sellers who withdraw now in the hope that they can get a better price in spring will be in for a nasty suprise", Van XXX said. "Rather than attract buyers as hoped for, the likely effect is that the resulting increased supply next spring will put further downward pressure on prices. Once the fabled 'spring recovery' fails to materialise, it will finally sink in to the public that the market is going down", he said.

If the past is anyhting to go by, vendors should not place too much reliance on forecasts for the market to pick up next spring. On 5th November 1989, The Times reported that "Britain's depressed housing market could pick up much sooner than expected, according to a forecast to be published this week." The rest is history.

- housepricecrash.co.uk
press contact: press@housepricecrash.co.uk, Tel.: xxxxxxxxxxxxx


ABOUT housepricecrash.co.uk:

housepricecrash.co.uk (HPC) is the fastest growing independent house price website and discussion forum in the UK. Regularly achieving 20,000 daily page hits and over 150 users online at peak times, our members range from taxi drivers to rocket scientists and solicitors, landlords to engineers. In addition to the active forum discussion boards, HPC features daily news summaries, property charts, and an extensive summary of property price statistics. It is THE Place for intelligent prospective first time buyers, "sell-to-renters", and anyone with an active interest in the property market.

Unlike many official sources, which are tied in with lenders, estate agencies, and money brokers, HPC has no vested interest in maintaining an uptrending property market. The site is visited by persons from all walks of life, including students, housewives, and manual workers. But a survey has shown that the most frequent users are professionals from fields such as IT, Finance, and the legal profession. Many are prospective First Time Buyers who feel that they have been kept out of the market by the rapid increase in prices, but there are many other types of users of the forum. Some are older people, who have "seen it all before" and have sold-to-rent. Others are "TUBs", who still own, and plan to "Trade-Up-at-the-Bottom" And there are a number of buy-to-let investors, who until recently had been visiting to the site to tell would be buyers about how they were missing out on capital gains from a rising market. In formulating the commentary in our first Monthly Update, we have relied upon the anecdocal experiences of many of our posters.

Link: PRweb Release
DrBubb
Google hits: Link

----DATE----: HPC : imminent

11.Dec.2004: 3,920 : 62 hits
Red Baron
Brilliant stuff - just what the Doctor ordered!

As one of the many older posters on this forum I heartily agree with everything in the article. I have seen boom/bust twice before in the property market and this time will be no different; in fact the market is now so grotesquely pumped up that this correction could well be the mother of all crashes without inflation to mask the falls.

The problem is that most FTBs are too young to remember the fallout from the last crash. The dimwits like Allsop and Spencer, who have been irresponsibly stoking up these unsustainable prices, have themselves no comprehension of what is happening; they cling to the dumb assumption that 'property prices only ever rise' because their investment horizons and experience has been confined to the last few years of continual growth.
DrBubb
JANUARY 2005's Release...

Falling Sales Warn of Price Correction in UK Housing Market
Monthly Report on the UK Housing Market for January 2005, by independent website housepricecrash.co.uk

(PRWEB) January 18, 2005 -- Can UK house prices stay at their current levels? We at Housepricecrash.co.uk (HPC) believe this is unlikely. With sales falling, supply increasing and demand falling this is creating a buyer’s market that can only lead to one thing: price reductions.

The rush to buy that many first time buyers felt in an atmosphere of rising house prices has abated due to the numerous comments in the press that prices are expected to stagnate or slowly rise. This might galvanise into a decision to hold off on a purchase if prices are seen to start falling. As one HPC member stated "As a frustrated first time buyer even if prices do fall I will wait to see how far they fall before buying".

Comments from the December report of property website Rightmove, such as "demand and supply are now severely out of kilter" reinforce our view that the balance has firmly switched from sellers to buyers as supply out numbers demand. Unsold property has risen for the sixth month from an average of 49 properties per estate agent branch to 67 over a third higher in the last year this coupled with a fall in the number of registered buyers creates a supply imbalance. The increasing property sale times and falling sales (32% to an average of 22 per surveyor in the November RICS report) are a consequence of this.

We feel that the much-heralded spring bounce in house prices will not materialise. Most anecdotal evidence implies that many sellers are holding back on putting their property to market until the traditionally more buoyant spring period. This could flood the market unbalancing supply and demand even further.

The new variable of this housing boom against the late eighties boom is the large number of amateur Buy To Let (BTL) investors. Unlike traditional owner-occupiers they will not be selling the roof over their heads; instead they will be selling an investment. If prices start to slide they are likely to rush to sell. If a crash does occur, it will be those investors that sell last who will lose the most. This thought might sway their thinking.

We feel that the downward pressure on prices will continue. The current imbalance in supply against demand makes current prices unsustainable. The question is if prices start to drop will it cause a stampede to sell pushing up the supply of housing and forcing prices ever lower?

About housepricecrash.co.uk:
Housepricecrash.co.uk (HPC) is the fastest growing independent house price website and discussion forum in the UK. Regularly achieving over 350,000 page hits each day. Our aim is to provide an area for discussion for those who believe that a house price correction is both possible and realistic. In addition to the active forum discussion boards, HPC features daily news summaries, property charts, and an extensive summary of property price statistics. It is THE place for anyone with an active interest in the property market.

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@: http://www.prweb.com/releases/2005/1/prweb198284.php
DrBubb
comments on the January Release,
came on this thread:
http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...?showtopic=4649
DrBubb
I am collecting email address (for Press contacts)

here: http://www.housepricecrash.co.uk/forum/ind...st=0#entry56299
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